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You MIGHT be VERY WELL FAMILIAR with the ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS CLICHE of: "When you ASSUME, you make an "ASS" out of "U" AND "ME." THIS, however, has been, still is, and will ALWAYS be, the complete WRONG of ALL WRONGS that ANY WRONG could ever BE WRONG, so NOT LONG AGO, I decided to challege that saying with a TOTALLY REVISED VERSION: "When you ASSUME, you make an "ASS" out of "U," INSTEAD OF "ME." The VERY REASON for THIS REVISION is VERY SIMPLE: should anyone assume something, either about another PERSON, or another GROUP OF PEOPLE, and the END RESULT of their assumption(s) should JUST SO HAPPEN to backfire, it's NOONE ELSE, but THEM, THEMSELVES, that's made into the COMPLETE "FOOL," or "ASS (if you will)," that they REALLY are, ALL BY THEMSELVES--the one/ones that they've assumed wrong ABOUT, is/are DEFINITELY in the PERFECT CLEAR.
Now, THIS ABSOLUTE TRUTH CAN, and PERHAPS MIGHT, provoke conflict, but so be it, because it is what it EXACTLY IS, so MY ADVICE to ALL OF US is just THESE TWO WORDS: "DON'T ASSUME."
Why I started this topic is because THIS MATTER was discussed in a group that I'm in at my PROGRAM, and it JUST SO HAPPENED that when I said what the "ASSUME" revision IS, I was told that MY version makes it sound as though I have a "chip on my shoulder." It's QUITE ODD that such a conclusion would be made, because QUITE OBVIOUSLY, the "ASSUMER" is the one that MIGHT REFUSE to check into what he/she's saying, ESPECIALLY if they're THOROUGHLY CONVINCED that they're ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, no matter HOW WRONG they are, until their so-called "RIGHT" blows up, RIGHT IN THEIR FACE, once they've found out what the "REAL DEAL" is/was, and they have NO OTHER CHOICE, but to COMPLETELY SURRENDER, either voluntarily or involuntarily, to the other side.
You, my friend, should pet more cats. They can brighten your outlook one the day immensely. That, or switch to decaf.
You proved how "assume" makes an ass of "you", but you haven't proven how it doesn't make an ass of "me".
hey dude, your rendering of the assume word has been around since I was a kid and that was 53 years ago. Originality is not your strong suit.
Get a grip and a life. Communication kills assumptions every time. So my advice to you is stop bloviating and start listening. You were given two ears and one mouth for a reason. Talk half as often as you think you should and listen twice as hard as you have been. Oh and pat a cat or dog whilst doing these things. Your life will improve exponentially.
OK, OceanDream, if YOU assume that 2 plus 2 equals 5, and you're TOTALLY BRAIN-WASHED to believe that, and I happen to owe you $5, who's REALLY the "ASS," THEN, when you count your money, ONLY to FIND OUT that I paid you $4? As far as you OTHER idiots that posted, EAT SHIT AND DIE!
If I assume that someone is guilty of a horrible crime, and tell everybody this, and damage said person's reputation, who's the ass? Well, You, you, as the accused, because your reputation is in the trash. Of course, this is until people find out the truth. Then, who's the ass? Me, for spreading all that crap around.
Lol, the internet.
The truth is that some assumptions are right, and some assumptions are wrong.
Ain't that the truth? Lol.
Amen on the internet!
typical typical typical!!!!! The last time i was told to "eat shit and die" i was in middle school. Take a grow up pill followed with a kindness chaser ding dong.
name calling is the provence of little minds.
WELL, CONSIDERING that I NEVER have to "GROW UP," EVER IN LIFE, all I wanna add about "ASSUMING" is that the ONLY TIME that such would be appropriate to do, is if YOU'RE WILLING to say something like: "I'm not gonna swear to this, but ..." of whatever the assumed situation IS. Such, however, is NOT appropriate, should you DEFINITIVELY SWEAR to ANY situation, with ABSOLUTELY NO EVIDENCE, WHATSOEVER, to back up your CLAIM/CLAIMS. THAT'S how it's prooven to be "U" as the "ASS," INSTEAD OF "ME," should YOUR claim/claims backfire, similar to what I said EARLIER.
I think, in which case all manners of if and what nots and ins and outs of the situation, that assuming just happens, in the parliance of our times to contain the ass word, merely as a consequence but not primarily of the root of which the extent to its meaning may be ass-ertained. You can call me and ass all you want, but I believe the poster of this topic still has not come to terms with the use of the capslock key in his posts, nor could he construct a coherent and convincing argument if his life dependent on it, lucky for him such will probably never be the case.
and that makes him an ass
If you say anything such as, "don't quote me on this, but...", then it's not called assuming, is it?
I'd say not.
I never understood the "never grow up" concept:
You never have to grow up? Does that mean you'll never contribute to society as an adult? Does that mean nobody can rely upon you, depend on you, come to you as a resource?
Society isn't made up of little children. Little children are by definition altricial and altricial adults who never grow up are nothing except a burden for the rest of us.
My thoughts exactly.
Regardless of what YOU, or ANYONE, for that matter, says, it's MY CHOICE, and THAT, ALONE, to NEVER GROW UP, and YET, there ARE those that choose to "RELY ON ME," for whatever, and for those that choose NOT to, I wish them JUST AS WELL; as far as the MAIN SUBJECT of this topic, the ONLY "ASS," or "ASSES," of course, would be YOU, and YOU, ONLY--if I choose to use the capslock to emphasize, it's PERFECTLY MINE to do so--and YES, whenever you DO say: "DON'T QUOTE ME," or whatever, it ISN'T assuming--it's GUESSING--there's ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WRONG with THAT.
you at least know how to turn your caps lock key off. wow, impressive.
Guessing and assuming are the same thing.
And there are other words of highlighting text so no need to capitalise it.
Senior, don't you know? Yelling on the internet makes you important!
Lol to all of this!
No, guessing and assuming are NOT the same, because when you GUESS, you SHOW RECOGNITION of the DEFINITE FACT that you ONLY KNOW what you KNOW, and what you DON'T know, you DON'T; ASSUMING is when you are ADAMANT about what you THINK you know, no matter HOW WRONG that EVIDENCE SHOWS that you ARE.
And as far as the CAPS, like I said in the PREVIOUS--you do it YOUR WAY, and I'LL do it MINE--plain and simple.
I know the original poster loves the attention, but it's fun pissing him off. hahaha.
Assuming and guessing are the same words. Also, you pretty much made an ass out of yourself by posting this board topic. I'm not assming that, I'm telling you something that's a fact. Please take some Miracle Grow or something before posting here. Thanks and have a wonderful day.
mygodchosenbride&i4lifefinally - am I right in thinking that according to your definitions in post 24, all assumptions are wrong?
I think that assume means different things to different people. While to you it's people being convinced that they're right when they're wrong, to me it can mean that, but it can also be a substitute for guessing.
agreed with Wayne on this.
Just be patient, guys. I'm sure the miracle grow will kick in at some point.
I doubt it, honestly.
But I guess I'll say this, while the Miracle Grow has not really taken effect. This entire board topic is nothing but a total waste of energy and bandwidth. However, I was definitely amused by it.
Well, if it's going to be a waste of space, might as well make it an amusing waste of space. At least this one involves somewhat of a debate, although I think the main points have been clearly stated.
I agree with Jess completely.
Can someone please explain to me what is going on with this post? I don't know if I should take this seriously or not.
OK--since you wanna tell yourself/selves over and over again the very lie that I'm "PISSED OFF," WHICH, by the way, is the VERY EXAMPLE of "ASSUME" that makes an "ASS" out of "U" and NOT "ME," you MAY AS WELL babble JUST AS INCOHERENTLY, that ABRAHAM LIis our CURRENT US PRESIDENT, and that OSAMA BINLADDIN is VICE-PRESIDENT--THAT'LL WORK JUST AS WELL (HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!)!
shut up dumbass, no one cares about your mindless dribel.
AGAIN: if you're ABSOLUTELY SURE of HOW POWERFUL you MIGHT think that you are, MAKE me!
So I guess Chelsea was right. The Miracle Grow wasn't going to work. Should have listened. lol
No. I don't think I'm more powerful by any means. I just think your pathetic attempts to be the most important around here are the most amusing board topic I think I've ever seen around here. The more you post, the more we laugh, so keep it up, and thanks for entertaining us so well. You've really got some skill.
Hey Jessica, do you think that he'd be a good entertainer on those TV shows they have in the evening? I think he would, in my opinion.
Probably. You know those shows where people act stupid on purpose, just to be funny? They should hire the original poster of this topic, because they won't have to train him in acting first. Hahahahaha!
Like I said in my OTHER message, YOU PEOPLE are MY "TOYS." WELL, I didn't EXACTLY say that, but I might as WELL--OF COURSE, I PURPOSELY post these "OBNOXIOUS TOPICS," because it's IDIOTS, like YOURSELVES, that'll be given a "RUN FOR YOUR MONEY," so to speak--I'm VERY SURE that those folks that just READ these, but DON'T RESPOND, AT ALL, are DEFINITELY LAUGHING, but MORE at YOU, because YOU IDIOTS don't give up--now, it CERTAINLY doesn't bother ME that you don't, but I'm sure that there's SOMEBODY that's reading this, that would just LOVE to REALLY put you in YOUR PLACE, SO BADLY, that you wouldn't even DARE add ANOTHER POST to this topic--I CERTAINLY HOPE that it DOESN'T happen, because THIS is FUN--whether I piss you off or NOT, CERTAINLY doesn't matter to ME, since ALL OF YOU are TOTALLY BENEATH ME, ANYWAY.
You're obviously responding to this topic because all of this bothers you. And that's very obvious. But if you happen to be more realistic than you're being right now, you'll see exactly what we're getting at.
Yeah, I have too much time on my hands. That one's pretty obvious, but why deprive myself of a good laugh when it's so readily available?
And some of you kiddies asked me what an internet Troll is? He's just lovin' up on the attention methinks.
I never liked that little thing. I just say the ideology. but then again most of us assume and there's quick analysis which isn't bad. but Yeah, I agree with you I just don't like that phrase and won't touch it, period.
Alright, I love phillosophy, and it's a boring summer day prior to college commencing, so why not be bored and put the phillosophical hat to use?
First, I host a radio show called the World's Perspective show. No, I'm not stating this to brag and assume that all of you will go "ooooh! aaaah!" because I have better things to do than that. The reason I'm stating this is because the goal of my show is to present all perspectives on any topic to the listener. This way, they will not assume and won't become stinky butts in the process but might gain a more open mind in the process. So, prior to reading further in this post, please, please take a deep breath, relax, and open your mind and heart. That way we can avoid any further conflicts.
Ready?
I will take quotes out of the original poster's messages, so that neither of us become--again-- stinky butts in need of a shower.
1.
"...I was told that MY version makes it sound as though I have a "chip on my shoulder." It's QUITE ODD that such a conclusion would be made, because QUITE OBVIOUSLY, the "ASSUMER" is the one that MIGHT REFUSE to check into what he/she's saying, ESPECIALLY if they're THOROUGHLY CONVINCED that they're ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, no matter HOW WRONG they are, until their so-called "RIGHT" blows up, RIGHT IN THEIR FACE, once they've found out what the "REAL DEAL" is/was, ..."
(run-on sentense.)
Aside from the grammar which I will simply attribute as your own personal writing style (It's fine, we all have our own writing styles), there are several flaws with this statement. First, consider all perspectives, just like I've said before you hopefully opened your mind. What if the person assuming did check up on to things prior to becoming a stinky butt and found out (from several sources) that his/her assUmptions were true? Of course, granted the assUmer should also consider all perspectives, but that's a different paragraph. So, wouldn't it be fair to say that assUming makes a stinky butt out of both you and I since if you are right I will be stinky but if I am you will?
Here's another quote that highly highly intrigued me. Like, highly. I'm going to need to ponder all night to see your perspective on this one.
"Like I said in my OTHER message, YOU PEOPLE are MY "TOYS." WELL, I didn't EXACTLY say that, but I might as WELL--OF COURSE, I PURPOSELY post these "OBNOXIOUS TOPICS," because it's IDIOTS, like YOURSELVES, that'll be given a "RUN FOR YOUR MONEY,..." (another really run-on sentense)
No comment. This statement shows a closed mind, but will you please ellaborate further on what motivates you to state it?
And this from the same post:
"...since ALL OF YOU are TOTALLY BENEATH ME, ANYWAY."
Aside from the general sexual image this statement gives me (I'd highly hate to have you on top of me since that would totally violate the strict fear of men-gay-relationships you seem to impose within your user profile), you really are not promoting equality. I respect you just as much as I respect the other posters in this topic, regardless if I agree with their views or not. Life is about learning lessons, and if you are going to use a system of ranking here (where by, you are "on top"), you will not only gain nothing out of life but will also gain no credibility. People don't like when they are down-ranked, just like you don't seem to enjoy the feeling much yourself judging by your comments.
To everyone else posting. People, people, people. Let's not forget mob-mentalities. While I understand your obvious laughs at the closed-mindedness this man seems to eminate, please remember that he too, like you, also has feelings. I respect all of you dearly, but please also try to see his side of the coin-even if it is something you consider funny and utterly obnoxious.
Now, all this isn't meant to hurt anyone in this discussion (The sexual comment was meant as more of a lighten-upper-because in truth that thought did cross my mind once I read your profile +that message), but if it did, I apologize in advance and until I see you exhibiting an open mind where you see the points and perspectives of others, further discussions on this topic will cease on my end.
Thank you and with respect and understanding to all,
Tomi
WELL, to TOMI, I MUST ADMIT that YOURS is the ONLY "NORMAL" RESPONSE to this topic, even though I might not TOTALLY agree with ALL of your observation, but YOU, unlike those that've posted BEFORE you, responded EQUALLY, instead of COMPETITIVELY, because AS A RULE, the ONLY TIME that I assert ANY amount of "APPROPRIATE ARROGANCE," if you will, IS when SUCH AS THOSE should ever think that they can "CONTEND for the LAST WORD" in a board topic that THEY'RE NOT THE BOS OF, and I AM--THEY know what time it is--THEY just wanna "PLAY THEMSELVES," and SPEAKING OF WHICH/WHOM, MY posts are what RUN this topic; YOURS, IN RESPONSE, are ONLY JUST THAT--RESPONSES, so OBVIOUSLY, it's "YALL" that are "BOTHERED." OTHERWISE, you would've responded either EQUIVALENT, or SIMILAR TO, the way TOMI did.
I meant to write "BOSS" in my previous post--sorry about that typo.
To The Journalist, I agree with you completely, on all aspects of your post. Thank you for bringing some structured and mature debate to this topic.
STRUCTURE and MATURITY have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to DO, WHATSOEVER, with this picture--what DOES have to do with it is that you have only TWO CHOICES: either equalize yourself on the VERY SAME PAGE with me, just like HE did, or put up with my ABUSE, which is my "PROUD-OF-IT"-obnoxious behavior, point blank.
see, its not even abuse that you give us. Its just amusement, and entertainment. Noone takes you seriouslly and thats just the facts.
And I may be a toy but I saw ts3 and toys have feelings. You bastard! hahahahahaha
NOT if they're INANIMATE, of course! BESIDES, I NEVER said WHO is a "TOY" and who ISN'T, but "if the shoe fits, it's yours."
That's one way to look at things for sure.
You got THAT right!